Nipple Rule Revision: Voting and Discussion

Old announcement of past promotion rounds and updates to Wolfhome.

Should the rule be revised and changed?

Keep the rule as is (no nipples allowed)
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Change the rule (Male nipples, no female nipples)
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Is it bullshit that boobs n their nipples get sexualized? Yeah. Does that mean masc nipples should be taken away for "fairness"? Fuck no. That's not progress. That's regression. If your goal is to eventually see a world where female nipples aren't taboo, making ALL nipples taboo won't achieve that.
Not to mention, wolfhome certainly won't be making any waves in the social norm. We've disallowed masc nipples for a long ass time and all it's lead to is Memes basically.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:08 pm

Not to mention people are getting ban, warned, etc for posting a picture of a man shirtless, or a G rated cartoon movie the character is shirtless and has nipples. This is harmless and no intent and its not fair to them, when they simply forget.

Edit: also since this was pushed back on the prior page since it was last post i want to quote it
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Keep in mind - we are keeping our promises and bringing this up for rediscussion after over a year of practice with this rule change. This is a rediscussion that people have consistently requested. I think something this important to the community deserves the respect of being discussed in as serious and mature a fashion as possible.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:09 pm

Yeah honestly, both female and male nipples can be seen in both a sexual and non-sexual manner, it really depends on the person and suggestion of the art piece. If i was living in a perfect world, both would be allowed under artistic nudity, and anything suggestively sexual disallowed. I don't really go for the all or nothing rule, take what we can get. Don't go backwards and continue going forwards. Its ridiculous to openly see male nipples on TV and out in public (at the pool, beach, etc) and then have to go and edit my shark furry in order to post it here without getting yelled at and having it removed. This site is 13+ and there are many adults here. I think we can take it.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:14 pm

all i have to say is.... who cares? they're nipples. literally just circles on a chest. allow all non-sexualized nips and be done with it already. this whole reoccurring discussion is getting old.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:19 pm

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all i have to say is.... who cares? they're nipples. literally just circles on a chest. allow all non-sexualized nips and be done with it already. this whole reoccurring discussion is getting old.
When that's socially acceptable you bet your bacon we will discuss it, but in the meantime we gotta stick to what you're likely to see in movies that are intended for consumption by young teenagers so we don't have Karen lighting up the ticket system and calling ABC11 eyewitness news lmao.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:20 pm

Vis wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:19 pm
Harley wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:14 pm
all i have to say is.... who cares? they're nipples. literally just circles on a chest. allow all non-sexualized nips and be done with it already. this whole reoccurring discussion is getting old.
When that's socially acceptable you bet your bacon we will discuss it, but in the meantime we gotta stick to what you're likely to see in movies that are intended for consumption by young teenagers so we don't have Karen lighting up the ticket system and calling ABC11 eyewitness news lmao.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:21 pm

damnit karen. let us have our nipples
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:31 pm

young teens see more nips then this forum ever will sorry not sorry
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:34 pm

There are PG-13 movies and shows where bare breasts are shown, so why can't Wolfhome allow them?

All or none, it's really that simple.

Edit: I mean non-sexualized bare breasts, of course.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:36 pm

Andes wrote:
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There are PG-13 movies and shows where bare breasts are shown, so why can't Wolfhome allow them?

All or none, it's really that simple.

Edit: I mean non-sexualized bare breasts, of course.
IIRC they're allowed to flash in a pg-13 movie, so it can't be on the screen for more than like 3 seconds or something? so with wolfhome it would be like.. not a flash but seen at all times
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:38 pm

Totem wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:36 pm
Andes wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:34 pm
There are PG-13 movies and shows where bare breasts are shown, so why can't Wolfhome allow them?

All or none, it's really that simple.

Edit: I mean non-sexualized bare breasts, of course.
IIRC they're allowed to flash in a pg-13 movie, so it can't be on the screen for more than like 3 seconds or something? so with wolfhome it would be like.. not a flash but seen at all times
I still don't see how Wolfhome could get in trouble for it if it's not sexual. I would love clarification, if there is some.
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:39 pm

There are indeed PG-13 movies where those are momentarily present, but they are not typically in media that is designed for consumption by young teenagers and certainly not in a persistent state. Unless we are going to raise the rating of the site to preclude all minors (which we won't do for obvious reasons) it isn't something that is appropriate for this setting. We can not allow all, and we can't debate it because it is not an option for this site. I think having none is a valid option, and one we have been exercising, so if that is where your heart lies then that's totally respectable!
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:05 pm

it kinda seems to me like saying “all or none” at this point is like being in the cafeteria at school, and your friend has a cupcake but your mom didn’t pack you one. So you walk up and say “well I don’t have a cupcake, so you can’t either” but idk I can see both sides so 🤷‍♀️
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shanirie wrote:
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it kinda seems to me like saying “all or none” at this point is like being in the cafeteria at school, and your friend has a cupcake but your mom didn’t pack you one. So you walk up and say “well I don’t have a cupcake, so you can’t either” but idk I can see both sides so 🤷‍♀️
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in your cupcake analogy: either hope your friend shares the cupcake with you or fight until they day you can have a cupcake too. dont throw their cupcake away out of spite
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It's not fair, I agree 100000%, but you know what you SHOULD do? Go contact your local state rep, and senate, keep sending in emails, make phone calls, talk to people in your area and try to speak with others even your age who see the same way on this matter, so that you all can send in complaints in masses, not post about it here, where no change will happen because the internet is controlled by legal laws that you need to change FIRST before you try to change the rules of a site.
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