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Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:53 am

awww thats awsome! I have been on this form for nearly 13 years now so, would be sad to see it go away D:
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:31 am

Two new artists, @Fik and @Bloodiath, were added to the Strike a Pose pledge level on the Chatlands 2020 Kickstarter.

Thanks you both! <333

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:36 am

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awww thats awsome! I have been on this form for nearly 13 years now so, would be sad to see it go away D:
It is almost impossible for me to imagine a situation where we would walk away from all of the content on this forum. So yes rest assured we will at the very minimum have a comfortable transition strategy to a new forum which preserves the messages and hopefully other stuff.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:45 am

i pledged! im so excited for this
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:19 am
https://discord.gg/PqhqsM if you aren't on the Chatlands/CL2020 Events Committee discord server you are missing out on what's going on with the Kickstarter. Come on over! <3
Tried to join, but it says invite invalid
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:14 pm
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https://discord.gg/PqhqsM if you aren't on the Chatlands/CL2020 Events Committee discord server you are missing out on what's going on with the Kickstarter. Come on over! <3
Tried to join, but it says invite invalid
Here's a fresh new invite for ya <3
https://discord.gg/kYmyuQ
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Is there any kind of insurance that this will happen if people turn over money for it? Another chat had started to raise funds for something similar-ish and it’s been years of silence and hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars in hopes of bringing a new project in. https://serenityisles.tumblr.com/post/1 ... -weve-been


Also, what’s the break down in cost for everything? Why/how does $5,000 cover what you’re offering to do?

@underdog Excuse my bluntness but the timing of this just seems odd. You have not been as active as you should be within the community and have not gotten back to several chat owners within a reasonable amount of time for problems only you can fix. This is obviously going to take a lot of work and there may be a lot of bugs that follow it, so how can we trust you to fix those in a timely manner and not give up and move onto something else?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:31 pm

The Kickstarter has reached the goal!! <3 There’s still more time to donate though for anyone interested =]
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:58 pm

Reacher wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:15 pm
Smorz wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:14 pm
underdog wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:19 am
https://discord.gg/PqhqsM if you aren't on the Chatlands/CL2020 Events Committee discord server you are missing out on what's going on with the Kickstarter. Come on over! <3
Tried to join, but it says invite invalid
Here's a fresh new invite for ya <3
https://discord.gg/kYmyuQ
Sorry I don't know how to do permalinks correctly it seems. Can you find it another way?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:09 pm

underdog wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:58 pm
Reacher wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:15 pm
Smorz wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:14 pm
underdog wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:19 am
https://discord.gg/PqhqsM if you aren't on the Chatlands/CL2020 Events Committee discord server you are missing out on what's going on with the Kickstarter. Come on over! <3
Tried to join, but it says invite invalid
Here's a fresh new invite for ya <3
https://discord.gg/kYmyuQ
Sorry I don't know how to do permalinks correctly it seems. Can you find it another way?
Here is a permanent link
https://discord.gg/YZVTwVA
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:36 pm

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:31 pm
Is there any kind of insurance that this will happen if people turn over money for it? Another chat had started to raise funds for something similar-ish and it’s been years of silence and hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars in hopes of bringing a new project in. https://serenityisles.tumblr.com/post/1 ... -weve-been


Also, what’s the break down in cost for everything? Why/how does $5,000 cover what you’re offering to do?

underdog Excuse my bluntness but the timing of this just seems odd. You have not been as active as you should be within the community and have not gotten back to several chat owners within a reasonable amount of time for problems only you can fix. This is obviously going to take a lot of work and there may be a lot of bugs that follow it, so how can we trust you to fix those in a timely manner and not give up and move onto something else?
First off let me say that I am thrilled that the Kickstarter was funded in just over two days. We have about 28 to run up the score. But I can understand and encourage anyone that looks at the Kickstarter and decides to pass.

But, am I offering insurance? No.

But, I am sorry things haven't happened yet with Serenity. I just saw the tumblr posts recently. I hear your concerns but it's not really something I have any good answers for.

So I am thinking for you the safe investment is to not fund the Kickstarter. I think that a lot of people reading this should rightly feel the same way. I am okay with that. In fact, you should hear me going on about how paying rent is good instead of spending money on my Kickstarter. REALLY I do.

But the thing you're asking for... I agree that people need to know what they're getting. And believe me I get that I walked away from Chatlands (more or less) for a long time. I wasn't totally gone but I did reduce my focus a lot. For a long time. I regret that I let things slide but I don't regret that I had a career as a web developer. As the time went by, I spent some effort on Chatlands and Wolfhome and helping other sites (like Serenity) with experimenting with day and night rooms, stuff like that... I had a lot of help from people like Bugfinder and many others. And I was always thinking that SOMETHING else, some other site, would take off. And here we are.

I will say this to answer you about if $5000 is realistic. $5000 is covering six months of programming work which is way below the going rate. And we have infrastructure costs. So it sounds like you're skeptical because I am not asking for enough? I can't tell. Clearly the 5 grand doesn't cover the costs. But that's not how Kickstarter works. I would have probably done this even if the Kickstarter failed, or if it fell short Robin kept going on and on about covering part of it. I want to work on Chatlands.

If the people can't trust me with $5000 to revitalize Chatlands, I can live with that. I am REALLY looking forward to all of the things I talk about on the Kickstarter page, but it's okay not to follow me like some sort of mindless cult. If you want to wait and see, please stick around and watch. We're still friends. From where I sit, so far the support up to now has been nothing sort of phenomenal.

I have specific things that I've said I want to get done listed in the Kickstarter page (http://chatlands.com/2020). Go read it if you haven't which it sounds like you have. I can tell you that I have a plan for getting it done and a general order of the things that can and should be done by October 31, 2020. And now it seems that some of my STRETCH GOALS (http://chatlands.com/kickstarter/stretch-goals.php) need to more carefully addressed.

See you online sometime,

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Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:23 am

We added CrowFly chibis to the CL 2020 Kickstarter but you better act fast b/c only two were left at this point.

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We make announcements about them over on the CL 2020 Kickstarter discord server here: https://discord.gg/YZVTwVA
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 pm

I pledged! <3

Not gonna lie, I'm ready for a new CL look, but I'm also hesitant because I'll miss the old look. Nostalgia's gonna hit me so hard :(
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:01 pm

I pledged! <3

Not gonna lie, I'm ready for a new CL look, but I'm also hesitant because I'll miss the old look. Nostalgia's gonna hit me so hard :bigcry:
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:32 pm

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I pledged! <3

Not gonna lie, I'm ready for a new CL look, but I'm also hesitant because I'll miss the old look. Nostalgia's gonna hit me so hard :bigcry:
I think we’re all gonna miss the old look a little bit! I was shown a video yesterday on YouTube, part of it featured the old Wolfhome homepage and map. It hit me so hard. But I’m excited for the new direction we’re going in too! Especially since we’re all here to do it together. <3
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